tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5868481.post7185609622416253755..comments2023-07-29T03:07:30.086-05:00Comments on The Punching Bag: Yet More Evidence of Looting in southern IraqLarry Rothfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14525764497697221380noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5868481.post-3057489759651595302008-07-11T05:14:00.000-05:002008-07-11T05:14:00.000-05:00No, you do not have it straight. What the Hritz st...No, you do not have it straight. What the Hritz study shows is that there has been looting in southern Iraq -- counter to what the article in the Art Newspaper says (and note, it is the Art Newspaper, not the archaeologists they quote, who do the extrapolating). This is not to say that there may not be other sites that have not been looted; it is only to say that we know extrapolating zero looting is just plain wrong. <BR/><BR/>Hritz also provides the first irrefutable evidence for what the rate of looting in at least one area was during the period 2003-2006. We do not have to estimate, for this area at least. We know for a fact. And the fact is not a happy one.<BR/><BR/>Voz earl is right that we cannot know for certain whether other sites were being looted at the same rate. And if we had no other evidence that looting had occurred at other sites, we might be able to argue that Hritz's site was an anomaly. But we do know that many, many other sites, not just in the south but elsewhere in the country, have been looted and looted intensively(see the reference to Elizabeth Stone's March 08 report, not to mention many, many other eyewitness reports). The extrapolation from Hritz's case is therefore not unreasonable, though like all extrapolations it should be taken with a grain of salt about its precision. (That's what the word "estimated" means.) <BR/><BR/>The larger point is that, while it is possible to quibble about just how much damage Iraq's sites have suffered, it is intellectually dishonest to suggest as the Art Newspaper account does that because nothing happened at 8 sites nothing has happened elsewhere, either in southern Iraq or in other provinces. The looting is a reality, and the loss to our knowledge of our origins has been substantial.Larry Rothfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525764497697221380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5868481.post-87232571568327152842008-07-11T04:04:00.000-05:002008-07-11T04:04:00.000-05:00So let me see if I have this straight: the 8 sites...So let me see if I have this straight: the 8 sites in southern Iraq which were found to be largely unlooted are completely anomalous and it is intellectually dishonest to infer anything from them about the level of looting in the country; whereas, the case study of a single area damaged by looting can be extrapolated out into broad claims and estimations of how much damage is being done to sites throughout the country on a yearly basis--does that about sum it up?<BR/><BR/>On a positive note, the use of GIS to identify previously undetected sites is fantastically interesting. Let's hope that the looters (many of whom obviously have access to Google Earth) don't catch on to this tool before the sites have been secured.<BR/><BR/>Voz EarlVoz Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11345952820382749813noreply@blogger.com